This Smart Home Sensor Blew My Mind! 🤯 mmWave
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This smart home sensor is insane! It's the Everything Presence One from Lewis with the channel Everything Smart Home, and I've NEVER tested anything like it. Let me show you what it can do.
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I'm a full believer in mmWave now!
Here’s a link to the Everything Presence One: shop.everythingsmart.io/en-us/collections/everything-presence-one
Sold out... they need more elves in the workshop!
Sold out. I'll keep an eye. Do update us if they get back in stock
it's that amazing it sold out.
Two on the way… cannot wait!!!
How safe are these? I bought a few microwave radar sensors from aliexpress a while back, but I have never used em because the tech concerns me a little bit tbh. As I understand, these are even higher frequency hmm
Thanks for the awesome review Reed, it was really good to get your feedback which is invaluable!
Oh, and more stock will definitely be coming soon!
Currently printing the cases for mine :) Can't wait!
Support a fellow RUclipsr. As somebody else stated; you’re getting all of these sensors in one package. this is not a bad deal. mmWave sensors are not cheap. My hat is off to Lewis. When he gets more in stock then I will support him by purchasing several. Yes, as an Engineer I can make my own but Lewis gets my support and I will go on building other sensors for my house as I have been doing for years.
That's great news. I'd love a few of these
You could also sell the STL file that you’ve got. Something like $ 5.00.
I was so excited when I saw that Reed was reviewing your sensor. I watched your videos as you were developing it and immediately went on the wait list. By the time I was ready to buy they were out of stock 😂😭 Glad to hear stock will be arriving soon. Moving to India from Australia soon and these will be one of the first accessories to be installed. Great work!
20 plus years ago I worked as an engineer at a company that used uwave technology for automatic door sensors. The 24 gigahertz sensor I worked on would indeed detect someone breathing. We used this as a feature to make a "safer sensor"
The use cases for proximity based automations that are this accurate are unlimited. It could really allow you to fine tune automations and increase automation resolution.
this just evolved smart home automations to a new level
Thanks. I was reading the manfacturer's specs and when I saw "Flashable with your own software", my head blew up. Awesome for people who like to know all ins and outs in the code.
Such a cool kit. Excited to see this grow so the scale will get bigger and cheaper
Agree 100%. I was surprised to see when I went to pre-order these that the total cost of the board + sensors + case was $84. I still pre-ordered a couple, but I am hoping that as this becomes popular and is manufactured at greater scale, the price can come down a bit. I can think of about 10 uses of them at my house. I am also excited to see what his next project is. :)
This is a great device, comes in at about the same as a hue sensor but without needing to spend more on a hub and more accurate for motion sensing! My office light often goes off cos I'm motionless.
I really like the light level sensors, they are great for bringing on the lights just as it starts to get dark outside. I have an artificial sunset taking the lights from cool white to warm white (essentially daytime light to more of a sunset colour). As sunset can be between 16:00-21:30 I can ensure I keep the white lights on longer to try and trick my brain into thinking it's not getting dark as early so if it gets dark between 19:00-21:00 it will trigger. If it happens before 19:00 or after 21:00, it just happens at the respective time. Gotta love Hassio!!
Yes, I hate doing dishes in the kitchen and the Hue sensor doesn't see me anymore doing small movements and turns off the lights.
I used a simple ping sensor in HomeAssistant to monitor if my computer is on or off. I then use 2 automations, one which turns the office light on by either the motion sensor or the computer turning on.
(This also checks the time of day, and only puts the light on if we're approaching or after sunset)
Then a 2nd which triggers when the computer state changes from on to off, then turns off the office light after 5 minutes.
I find this works better than relying on the motion sensor to spot that I'm sat there (but the mmwave sensors in this video do give me ideas for use in other rooms, just not needed in my home office)
A few years ago I installed a Watts hot water recirculating device at my water heater. We had a long run from our water heater to the master shower requiring a long wait for hot water to arrive at the shower head. The watts came with a manual timer to set for times you would normally need the hot water quickly. Being retired our needs vary. I was able to plug the watts pump into an inexpensive smart plug to get an easier way to set up a routine with Alexa to turn on the pump to get the water ready for the shower. I discovered the PIR sensor to set up in the bathroom attached to the exhaust fan grill. Now this device will get me the hot water when we walk into the master bath. A routine will shut off the watt’s pump if there is no movement within a specified amount of time. A pir could be set up in additional bathrooms for quicker hot water there also. I have a routine set up so the pir will only work during sunrise to sunset so as not to start the pump during an overnight trip to bathroom. Your subs may be interested in this home automation idea. The pir runs on AAA batteries. I got the rechargeable ones and they last almost 3 months. The alkalines run down quicker. The plug in pir would be a better solution for some.
Wow, what a neat sensor. I look forward to trying one out and then probably replacing every sensor in my house with it!
A wall plate and AC adapter designed to hook to mains, to put this on the wall or make it look like your standard lightswitch or eletrical outlet plate would make this product alot more clean.
Direct Sunlight?
Hi, thank you for bringing this great sensor to our attention. Have you tested it outside? Virtually any PIR sensor that I tested triggered false alerts when the sun was shining on it or when the sun was heating up the area under it (hot air moving upwards).
I'd be interested to hear how it behaves outdoors.
Long time no see. Getting into camping this year has really made me forget about my smart home. It's chilly time in the north east now... time to see what's broken in my smart home. Kids room motion is a target at the moment. Thanks for the vid! I've been noticing people talk about this thing.
Ok? Bragging much? weird flex but chipotle
Back here in Europe we have Knx or proprietary infrastructures like Loxone that work great with mm Wave Presence Sensors and miniservers. And yes, we try to cable everything in order to have the best responsiveness.
Now this makes me want to integrate home assistant into HomeKit as that's my setup. I could see this being useful, thanks for the review!!
Wow, this looks amazing, thanks for sharing!
I have been using the Aqara FP but I had to also use a standard motion detector with it as it's quite slow to detect motion. Having a 2-in-1 device is amazing!
It's already sold out though 😭
I'm using a chinese ceiling-mount mmWave sensor and it is great, really quick and accurate.
However I am still getting "no presence" if I sit very still, which requires another sensor, like a door sensor - "if no one left, they are still inside".
@@circuitdotlt care to share info?
So cool to see these on your channel Reed. Been following Lewis for a while, really hope these take off for him.
Nice shirt! I've used a couple of presence sensors, and like everyone else, we have the "turn the lights back on" wave going on every so often. Once these are back in stock, I'll definitely be picking up a couple.
NSA: "Let me track you!"
Smart Home Solver: "Absolutely!"
Dual technology (PIR, mmWave) sensors for security systems have been around for at least 20 years. usually the sensor will even detect movements behind it. They usually trigger the alarm when both sensors detect movement, so to prevent false alarms. It's very interesting
Yep. I have a patent on that from the 1998 timeframe. Specifically on range adjustment based on time of flight.
At least 20 years ago.
Yes.
I had some dualtec 37 years ago installed in my home.
And I sure wasnt the first!
It even caused my speeding RARAR sensor to alarm as I drove towards and away down the street.
Very useful.
This guy obviously came here from a backward planet.
The things I'm not a big fan:
- the USB cable cannot be plugged from behind
- The STL for the case is not available
- It has a lot of things for the presence, but much less things on the air quality
And especially that it has a quite high consumption(probably due to the presence sensor) and there is no way a battery will work very long(compared to other sensors that can work 6 months on battery).
I'm more looking for a netatmo replacement on my end ;)
Fantastic video and super exciting new tech for motion sensors! Any ideas on how to power these if I want to place this in the ceiling of the rooms of my house? The only thing I can think is to have a ceiling outlet in every room, but that isn't super ideal.
Any ideas here on battery power or low voltage power?
I'm curious about using this for my driveway; outdoor temp, outdoor humidity, outdoor lux, pir & mmWave accuracy should let me detect objects entering the actual driveway to trigger floodlights etc. without setting off every time a larger vehicle drives by etc.
Is there a listing for minimum operating temp? Looking at up to -20°C
It also detects a ceiling fan when placed even at low height which makes them almost useless in many cases. I've had to make hats from cardboard and tinfoil tape so the ceiling fan isn't seeing it off
There's definitely a "tin foil hat to protect from things hovering above" joke in there somewhere 😀
i am facing the exact same issue. does your solution work ??
@@sahilkarni1550 yes it looks goofy but I'm going to try and 3d print some nicer ones and line them with foil tape
Hey guys, let’s drink every time he says: it’s so accurate” 😂😂😂
I saw this when he announced this and ordered 5 on the spot. I can not wait to get mine and set them up
Great, to see you are amazed about this sensor. Now I will definitely also boy some of these.
I don't know what frequency those old handheld police doppler speed trap guns worked at, but if they were pointed at you, you could hear the doppler shift of the heart pumping and blood moving around. And if you spoke, the movement of the vocal cords also could be heard. It was kind of a neat effect, I figure surely somebody by now has found a way to put that effect to good use.
24 gigahertz ?
These sounds like an amazing sensor, I’m building my forever home and plan to do my smart home set up as I go so I’m researching everything I might need or want. My smart home will mainly just automatically respond to things, my curtains will open because the sun came up, close because it set, lights will come on cause someone walked in, turn off cause someone left, my door will unlock because I pulled up to the house, this sorta thing so this sensor could be a game changer for me. I have a few concerns tho, for my household specifically. 1 I have large dogs that’s are home and moving around when I ain’t and 2 I use ceiling fans, love them, I will have them in every bedroom and a huge one in the open living room/dining/kitchen area and they will run constantly. I know I could mount at ceiling and use the distance restriction to get around the pet thing probably but if I do that then does it see the ceiling fans as someone there constantly? I know with my indoor cameras I have to use the custom viewing fields to blank out my ceiling fans or my cameras are just constantly triggering for motion, I assume the PIR sensor would do the same in this sensor.
My mmWave sees the ceiling fan, and therefore makes the sensor unusable. Back to PIR!
Imagine how much this could help camera motion triggers. So those road facing cameras wouldn't be triggered by cars or anything beyond the range you want.
I have some onorder but currently use agara fp1 and additional pir sensors. I have lowered my Time to turn off lights but I set a temporary scene before cutting them off. Basically wait 3 mins, set temp scene, turn off lights, set timer (1 hour). If you return within the hour the temp scene gets called and the lights return the same as you left. If the timer has expired the default scene (based on time of day) gets called when motion is detected. Much better wife approval
I'm sure a lot of sweet videos will come from this sensor! Looks sweet! And crazy that it can detect you typing without even seeing you that was amazing haha
mmwave is the holygrail for home automation, having that aqara fp1 basically just solve 99.99% of my problems with room presence.
while this one is neat, I dont really need a AIO sensor like this, I actually need this to be placed on different areas of my (eg PIR sensor) to exactly know where I am, aqara fp1 actually have this radar like capabilities to know where your exactly at, but for now, ZHA and Z2M cant utilize this feature. If they finally able to utilize this feature, automation base where you were at is a big one addition for home automation.
Hi Reed, Just got my EP1 and loving it so far, quick question, what app was you using on your phone, to change the settings on the EP1, TIA...
This is freaking awesome!!! I was always struggeling with the cooldown and had to fiddle around with timeouts and things. But this one. I need like 10 or 12 of this ...
Also whats up with the bluetooth part of it? Did you use it? Can you detect who is in the room too?
With a sensor like THIS you could think about things like music following a person throughout the house!
Like I am sitting and working in my studio and my girlfriend is doing her own business upstairs both listening to spotify on our Sonos Speakers (got like 9 rooms with Sonos/Ikea Speakers, could need 1-2 additional for the halways) and then your playback could like follow you. It could extend to the rooms you are going to (leaving it on at the master for a decent timeout, before switching masters (one might have a tiny break in playback when doing so))
So her podcast would just follow her into the bathroom while my music extends to the living room and kitchen when grabbing some food and kinda pulling back when I left those rooms and I am back into my studio ...
I have a workaround for the same problem using motion sensor in my bathroom at home. The motion sensor turns on the lights in the restroom when someone walks in. If the motion sensor does not sense motion for 3 minutes, it turns the lights off. There's a problem here if you're in the shower with a shower curtains closed then the motion sensor doesn't detect you and the lights go off while you're in the shower. So my remedy to this was a door sensor on the restroom door. If the door is closed the lights won't go off because I programmed it to ignore the 3-minute rule on the motion sensor. But if the restroom door is left open for longer than 3 minutes then turn the lights off. So when you walk in to brush your teeth and the door stays open the lights come on because of the motion sensor. The light will remain on as long as there is some type of motion. As soon as you walk out the light will go off in 3 minutes as long as the door is not shut. The problem to this for me is you can't shut the bathroom door or the lights will remain on. This is the problem I have yet to solve in case you would like to shut the bathroom door while it's not occupied. And believe me there's been times the restroom door needed to be shut while not occupied. Lol especially after my dad has been in there.
Would adding an override kill switch work? Even if you’re limited on space you can add something like the Leviton 5634-W
@alexanderfehr2047 Thanks that may do the trick. I will have to do a little tinkering on that.
I have used such sensors for gate / door opening automation in my job few years ago. That sensors used 24ghz waves and it could filter out humans from cars and also detect the direction of movement. Is that possible as well with this one you are using? Or is it theoraticly possible? Maybe with some firmware /software update or implementation? Thx ✌️
Where are you getting your sensors from and what model info would you be open to sharing? Thx
@@bobking682 It is from the german company FEIG. Model "MWD BP" . Motion detection sensor. You should find a datasheet on their website.
Awesome! This is what I've been looking for. Thanks, Reed!
Interested device, I hope it or something similar make it out to other platforms besides home assistance. The Aqara mmwave fp1 sensor is another good option.
Awesome video dude! Just the video I needed. Thanks
I have also worked with microwave sensors, it is a big problem, it oscillates, from different devices such as the phone or wifi router and others that use frequencies, or even if you set the sensitivity higher. That's why many reputable companies don't use this technology, especially since it can't be used for the alarm system. If you were careful, he said that sometimes he activates himself, for no reason. Don't worry, if it was that easy, many companies were making such sensors by now. I tried too. It is not reliable. But just to turn on the light, it's good.
Maybe this new generation of mmWave sensors has some form of countermeasure for interference of this kind (ie. wifi). Besides, combining PIR and mmwave seems like a good-enough workaround.
p.s. awesome to see someone else from Romania, cei mai buni ingineri :)
You didn't pay attention. This sensor is mmwave, not microwave. Specifically it's 24 GHz. Standard wifi and microwaves are 2.4GHz, cellular is about the same or lower, and newer wifi standards are 5GHz/6GHz, so it wouldn't get any interference from those.
edit: One possible conflict is 5G networks some of which may operate in 24GHz. Although if your phone is connected to wifi you wouldn't have an issue.
Impressive, once they are back in stock I have use for several of them. Cheers.
Hi Reed @4:14, these cooldowns. How do i change them? I need the PIR one to be lower but I can't find it anywhere. Any help?
Does it mean we can have precise position for presence sensing? Like trigger work profile when I am sitting in front of my office table.
Have you seen Signify the company that owns Phillips and Wiz has come out on their Wiz lineup of using WiFi signal interference as a presence detection method?
What a great sensor! Do you have any recommendations for an outdoor motion sensor that will not trigger from the sun or cars driving by 30ft away?
My solution is to mount one to the backside of the mailbox catching the motion as it approaches the house.
Hello,
I would be interested on how it performs in an external environment; I have a PIR sensor that monitors a part of the garden but the central heating vent keeps turning it on (when no one is there)
I wonder if this could work for detecting if the washing machine, dryer, dishwasher is still running?
Almost certainly no. There isnt anything moving on the outside. *Maybe* if it could look through the transparent (as in transparent to radar) door of a washing machine or dryer, but I wouldnt count on it, and using a smartplug is so much easier to determine this anyhow.
@@vertigo2893my washer dryer move way more then this dude taking deep breaths lol
Maybe not the dishwasher
My dishwasher doesnt run anymore. Shes gotten kinda lazy in those regards.
Nice. This will be perfect for my home office lights and electric heater, which I often forget to turn off.
Ha, they are already sold out. And I checked just 10 min after this posted. I will check back with them later.
Oh well, if I would have finished this before commenting I would have saw that they are sold out.
Looks like a great device Reed. Thanks for sharing.
Sold out. I wish some factory would make these by thousands as to bring the price right down. Also, I would hope it has an easy accessible API.
Wow... Besides the look of it... this thing is awesome. I need (more than) one!
how do you use HA to change hue strip light color to due cool color effects instead of just a solid color thta is the same every time?
"This can detect me taking a deep breath." To be fair, astronauts on the moon can detect you taking a deep breath.
$73 for "full kit" and it does not include the case, which is an extra $9. So you're looking at $82 all in, per room, for this module and you still need to provide a USB-C powering mechanism.
I guess this appeals to those who can't make their own sensors.
@@RustyShackelford_ So... Me?
@@aaronkbutler Nope, Click "full kit" and it goes to $73. The board, without the sensors, is what is $37.
I wouldn't say you need one for every single room, more rooms where you tend to sit still for long periods of time, like an office, living room or perhaps bedroom.
The reason the case is sold separately is so that people who wanted to mount it in a different way or wanted to make their own case weren't paying for something they didn't need or want.
@@EverythingSmartHome The price is what it is; I appreciate you taking the effort to design and produce it, but it's a bit expensive for me personally. I wish you the best of luck with continued sales.
I’ve been wanting a humidity and temperature sensor to add to my set up :)
“It’s SO accurate” 😂😂😂 loved it every time
How do I integrated it with other systems like casa or Insteon? Does it have to be home assistant or Alexa?
I just learned yesterday from a Paul Hibbert video that echo dots have presence detection built-in that is accomplished by reflecting ultrasonic frequencies. Has anybody gotten good results using that in automations?
Yes the Echo 4th Gen and the Dot 4th gen and up have that functionality. It works well for just turning off a light if no one is in the room but it’s pretty slow at initially detecting it and saying the room is empty. I use it for my kids bedroom to turn off the lights when they get left on and it’s been working great.
@@SmartHomeSolver Thanks Reed! Ya, I just tested it half the day yesterday and it doesn't appear to be very reliable for me.
I am subscribed to the RUclipsr who made this sensor and he is great for sure.
* Question: How do you find this sensor compared to the Aqara version?
TY. I would be interested if I could use it in hot or cold like Attic or crawl space, or outside?
@SmartHomeSolver What do you use to make automations?
Nice thing is automating the heat recirculating pump with this. So it knowns when you get up to go to the bathroom, you'll need some hot water at the sink before heading off to bed agian.
How do you hook it up to things to automate them?
Will it be able to detect movements and presence into and out of predefined zones in a room?
Ok 2 ideas.. use multiple sensors to track objects. This enables so many more features because now it's instant and it also has a way to predict events.. if it's walking out door then say goodbye. If near fridge. Then ask what's for dinner..
Do you know of any sensors for open gates (external sensors)
Hello Can i know which smart home dashboard are you using ?
Awesome overview! I appreciated the red swingline!
I was bummed when the preorder sold out and I had missed it. Would love to try a few out. Also, that bit at the end was cute! hehe
You have a very nice home Sir. Just curious to know if this works with Alexa? I live in a 432sqft apt and I would like to use something like this to turn on my home theater system when I enter my unit and also does it know to turn on lights at night or is it just turn them on period when it detects motion because I don't want that to happen in the day time. Ty
So let me get this straight....if a flea jumps inside my house my alarm system goes off? Wow! Sensitive bro. I want one.
Finally, some smart home tech that works as advertised. Buying.
Should I get a HomePod mini or Echo dot? What works easier with most devices? Smart outlets, thermostat, security system?
Just set mine up, love it!
How would this work with ceiling fans that are always on? Wouildn't that detect constant motion?
what app are you using for automation?
Hi,
Can you please make an up-to-date video about the best equipment to look after a newborn baby?
Would be ideal if it worked with Apple.
I'd also appreciate an up-t-date best Apple supported indoor surveillance and outside door bell (with videos of course).
Thanks.
This is off topic but where did you get the chairs for your kitchen island?
Good review here and a non chinese product designed by an actual pro in home automation. Think I found the presence detection system I ve been looking for for more than 2 years now. Yayyyyy🤩🤩🤩
I need a recommendation too smarten up some existing window blinds. They are fabric lines that raisin lower horizontally. Any suggestions?
Would this be a good option for for an underbed light that you only want turned on when getting out of the bed in the middle of the night?
How well do they work without line of sight? Through a cabinet door? Through a curtain or blinds?
Extremely well.
I can't envision how I'd use it today, but I hope this makes its way into some products soon that I will use.
Does it also works with Hoobs/Homebrigh ?
This is pretty cool! Joined the waitlist.
Hey is there a how to for the freeze game ?...i would like to know.
Hello I follow you everywhere and I love your videos and I apply them. He has an idea I’m very interested in, but I don’t know how you could do a tutorial? It’s when you open the door with a Contact Sensor the light opens or when you close the door the light closes. How do you do this? Please answer thank you.
what do you use these for? examples?
Will it ever work with smartthings also?
That sensore looks amazing! I'm distracted by that flavor of Ice Cream your kids are devouring. Where do I get that?
Walmart, it’s really good!
This is so cool, sensitivity is mind blowing! Wish it supported Apple's HomeKit but still awesome nonetheless. Great video!
Damn. Sold out. I need 5-6
Can this be integrated into control4 systems?
What outdoor video cameras do you suggest? I have smartthings.
PIR on your office seemed slow to turn your lights on, you were half way across room before light came on.
It’s my light switch has a slow ramp up time. It’s not the sensor. The other lights turn on from Home Assistant calling an Alexa routine so there’s that slight delay with the cloud.
does it detect in a line ? or different shapes.
Why did I laugh when the baby was walking.
Something tells me that this sensor can be use for the next squid game... 😂
Where can I get the glass lamp in your background?